Wednesday, August 6, 2008

TBN Fun

Michael Mckinley over at The 9Marks Blog has a very funny article about the Sunday he recorded several televangelists. Two of my favorite quotes are below.

"Rod Parsley

-- Homiletics lesson #3 -- If you lack the authority that comes with the truth, garner authority by screaming and then staring into the camera like a serial killer."

"And finally, Ed Young TV

-- After all the prosperity gospel stuff, Ed Young, Jr. seems like Charles Spurgeon.

-- We're talking sex today on Ed Young TV. At one point he said, "When you make love to your spouse, you are like the Trinity. You can't tell where one ends and another begins." Those, gentle reader, are the two least sexy sentences ever uttered.

-- If When I become the old guy dressing twenty years younger than I am, please tell me. I don't blame Ed Young for dressing like he's a 25 year old with a perma-tan. I blame the people around him who enable it. It's not OK. Ed, I say this as a friend... it's time to rock the distinguished professor look."




Tuesday, August 5, 2008

Church Planting Franchise Style (Part 3 1/2)

Driscoll gives some good balanced insight to the theology issue discussed in the previous Church Planting Franchise Style (Part 3) post. I've also added another goodie. :)





Saturday, August 2, 2008

Church Planting Franchise Style (Part 3)

The question I raised with a previous post "why would or should I or anyone else for that matter get angry about Northpoint franchising itself and placing its product only in large metro areas so that people are changed" hopefully and prayerfully will be answered below. I would also like to raise one more question at the end of this post that may or rather will definitely suprise those of you who know me and/or have read much at all of this blog.


I'm not angry that Northpoint wants to plant a ton of churches.


I'm not mad at the fact they are only targeting major metro areas either.


I am distubred by the language one of their own church plants uses to describe their church planting philosophy using terms such as "franchise, brand, company, our customers, raving fans," and thus one of the reasons I obviously am not a fan of their methods. It is not disturbing because those particular words are part of some evil satanic incantation. They are disturbing because of the connotations these words have in relation to a church or church planting. It seems the Gospel has become a commodity to be peddled rather than the instrument for the life change that the Northpoint folks desire. But then again if you were to read the post you won't find one mention of the Gospel at all. Sure you'll find a desire that their "customers" buy into life change. But instead of the Holy Spirit working with the Word, and through the Word, and never against the Word which all points to the Gospel of Jesus Christ which is the power of God unto salvation (they call it lifechange) Northpoint's philosophy is to win their "customers" with environments. Environments? Yes environments. There's no mentioning of that boring ole played out Gospel, but you sure can find interesting, helpful, and irresistible environments to promote life change in the Northpoint franchises-just what consumers need. But is it what sinners need?


Another reason I get angry and frustrated is the cow dung you can read straight from the horse's mouth as it were. They offer lip service in regards to not wanting to promote Andy, but I'm not drinking the Northpoint Kool-aid. If you did happen to read #4 under Questions from Potential Staff I hope that you ask yourself just what is being promoted. Is it Andy? Is it Andy's gift? Is it Jesus? Is it the Gospel? I think the answer is obvious.


The last thing that I want to comment on is the dichotomy they place between communication and leadership. Cumberland's lead pastor says this "NP churches no longer fight that leadership battle. We can find leaders to do both lead AND teach. We purposefully separate "communication" from "leadership". We don't feel biblically, or from a church leadership standpoint, that they necessarily have to be one in the same." So the Biblical example is that of the Apostle encouraging a shy, timid, cowardly man to find someone else to make up where he lacked and to find all the men that were skilled in the precise areas he was insufficient and use them instead. Or rather the Biblical example is that of the Apostle boasting in his weakness because grace is sufficient; Christ's power is made perfect in weakness. Or maybe my ESV is jacked up and I'm reading it wrong. And please don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not naive enough to think that one man can pastor a church as effectively as a plurality of leaders. I understand that we all have areas where we lack and God uses other men and women as means to fill those holes so our ministries are made more complete. I'm simply arguing that there's no need for the distinction or rather separation between communication and leadership in a pastoral role especially when that distinction is more aligned with a business model than a Biblical model.


To put it all together, the franchise church isn't what necessarily gets me red faced. It is the promotion of man over God, experience over truth, environment over supernatural sovereign grace, and methods and strategies over the life changing freedom and adoption in Christ through the power of the Gospel that perfectly and eternally saves.


Here's my point. And no I'm not going to use the old cliche "what you win them with is what you win them to" although I think it is certainly fitting. The heart of the matter, and the answer to question at hand, and really the bottom line of the old cliche just quoted is theology. These examples I hope serve as a reminder to how crucial and foundational theology is. From your theology flows your ideas, methods, and strategies into whatever goals/ends you may have. So if you have a high view of man guess who you're going to promote and prop up. And if you have a low view of scripture and the gospel guess what you're going to use in their place...environments and productions. The reason followers of Christ should rail against methods and philosophies like this is because it ultimately denies Him, His work, His saving grace, and His glory.


This may surprise some of you. In the next post I want to answer the question "Why I am glad Northpoint is planting churches?" And then the last post in this series I will take a look at some of the other church planting organizations, and why I think they are a much better model.

Saturday, July 26, 2008

Church Planting Franchise Style (part 2)

As stated in the previous post I am going on vacation. The answer to question I posed "So why would or should I or anyone else for that matter get angry about Northpoint franchising itself and placing its product only in large metro areas so that people are changed??" will have to be answered sometime this coming week if I get access to a computer. In the meantime Red and Black had an interesting and in my opinion accurate description of the specific example of the north point partners. Anyone else care to chime in on the specific example or even church planting in general?

Friday, July 25, 2008

Vacation Smokes

The picture of the Rocky Patel's a couple of posts down got me thinking of the vacation cigars I'm going to have the opportunity to enjoy this coming week. I don't have a large collection by any means. But what little I do have I thoroughly enjoy. It looks like this week I'll be enjoying a couple of Gurkha Fuertes and an Edge by Rocky Patel while I read good theology on the sandy shores of Fernandina Beach. Who is jealous?



Thursday, July 24, 2008

Church Planting Franchise Style

For the past several days I've been doing some reading and thinking about church planting. But be forewarned and note that I have not read best-selling books on this subject, nor have I formally interviewed any church planters. Essentially all I have read is the ministry philosophy and general information behind a few church planting organizations, and I have talked with a couple friends who know more and have some experience in church planting. I'm not an expert, nor do I claim to be. I just have been rolling these things around in my head for a few days and wanted to share some thoughts.

Specifically the one church planting organization that sparked my interest in church planting philosophy is northpointpartners.org. This is Andy Stanley's church planting division from his organization known and branded as Northpoint Community Church. After reading through their faqs and some blog posts from one of their "strategic partners" "lead pastor" I'll be honest and say that I became a tad angry.

This is childish and immature right? There was no reason to be upset and there is no reason to be upset now. After all, lives are being changed and people reached-
approximately 30,000 at all of the campuses and strategic partner locations each week. They are "winning" and successful. "I’ve found a model and a set of systems I believe in, I fit in and I chose to commit myself to....and I'm going with that."As the "lead pastor" from Cumberland says in this blog post "I’ve found a model and a set of systems I believe in, I fit in and I chose to commit myself to....and I'm going with that." And "... are we seeing people becoming more intimate with God? Are we seeing believers in our churches connect more meaningfully and regularly with other believers? Are they changing and maturing to be more like Jesus? Are we seeing the committed core in our churches leveraging their influence in the lives of those aren't in church anywhere and are disconnected from God? Are they strategically and boldly inviting their friends and neighbors into the right environments we are creating together, so that they can discover the life-changing message of Jesus Christ?"

So why would or should I or anyone else for that matter get angry about Northpoint franchising itself and placing its product only in large metro areas so that people are changed?

The answer to that question at least from my perspective will be forthcoming...until then though does anyone else have any thoughts/comments/rants/praises on church planting in general or
the above example specifically?

Wednesday, July 23, 2008

New Link

I found this blog The Red and Black Redneck while taking a look at Phil Johnson and company's Pyromaniacs. I guess I won't hold a grudge against him for being a Georgia Bulldog fan and add him to my roll. Nobody is perfect right?

I read through a few posts and it seems to live up to the description "commentary from the deep South on life, football, religion, and politics (not necessarily in that order.)" There are some helpful insights as well as a couple of things I can really relate to like reformed theology, SEC football, and fine hand rolled goodness. Or for the visually stimulated...








Monday, July 21, 2008

RTS Bound...

I received word the end of last week that I was accepted to RTS. I'm super excited and thankful for the opportunity.



God has been most gracious in the journey to this point, and I know he'll continue to be. Also, my wife has been such an encouragement. God has really used her in so many ways. I'll probably never know most of them, but am grateful and longing to spend the rest of my life finding out. She is such a blessing and a treasure that without her strength, motivation, and compassion I'd be far worse today than I am. The Lord has used her in a mighty way and will continue to do so as we grow in our marriage to God's glory.

I just wanted to give thanksgiving to God for His faithfulness and His plan. He really does know what He's doing even if I don't have a clue.

Thursday, July 17, 2008

A new perspective on Piper...







I saw this on Josh Harris' blog. I thought it was hilarious. Piper representin'.

Tupac would be proud.





Criticism and Affirmation

If you've read any number of the somewhat substantive posts on this blog I'm sure you've picked up on the fact I lean more toward the criticism side of the fence. To be honest it is a little more than a lean. You could probably describe it as a full fledged encampment on the critical side of the fence only ever so often glancing over in the direction of the affirmation side.

Why?

That's a very good question and one that I've been asking myself lately. Am I critical because I love truth and hate error? Or maybe it is because there are too many weak and cowardly men that refuse to stand for what is right and call error error? I wish I could answer so righteously and courageously to say yes without reservation. But I cannot.

I do love truth and hate error, and I do think there too many weak and cowardly men. But I am one of the cowards. I am overly critical because it is easier to take a stand against something than it is to take a stand for something.

So I cower because of my ignorance and lack of faith. To all the men who may read this I pray that we will not just stand against something but that we'll also fight and affirm what is right and holy and good.

Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Ignorance or Apathy?

The recent post over at Contend Earnestly has encouraged me to post again. Seth admits to having a bit of a dry spell physically and spiritually. I can definitely relate to that.

The biggest problems for me are the two things in the title of this post. And the funny thing is that God used a sports radio show to point that out to me. The radio show has several intros and outros with the famous voice over movie guy or at least it sounds like him. Anyway, the one that got my attention went like this...

"Which is worse ignorance or apathy? Here at the Finebaum radio network we don't know and we don't care..."

I laughed at first because I thought it was pretty clever. But then the ole conviction started kicking in. I realized that described me better than it did a sports talk show. I just wanted to confess that and say that the Spirit is working in me and changing me slowly but surely for His glory and my good.

Tuesday, June 3, 2008

A Phil Collins song...

never seemed so cool. And yes I'm aware of the Bone Thugs-N-Harmony collaboration. Enjoy.

Monday, June 2, 2008

Fundamentalists

John Piper pastor from Bethlehem Baptist Church has an interesting blog post about Fundamentalists. More specifically it is his 20 reasons why he does not take potshots at them.

Now if you are as ignorant as me you're wondering what in the crap is a potshot. Well the definition from this website says a potshot is criticism aimed at an easy target and made without careful consideration. The fact that Piper uses a word that denotes Fundies are an easy target is a little ironic considering the content of the post don't you think?

Well I thought it would be fun to post at least one reason to take potshots at them.


Anyone else have a favorite they'd like to share?

Wednesday, May 28, 2008

Motivational Posters

I'm sure you've seen the Demotivational posters out there such as:







At Phil Johnson's blog Pyromaniacs I found something similar but geared toward emergents. They call it Emergent-See Po-Motivators. Enjoy.

Some of my favorites:






Thursday, May 22, 2008

New Attitude 2008

Anyone reading this blog going?

A friend and I were talking today about some conferences we wanted to attend. I forgot all about this one until I ran across it in a search. I watched the promo video below and got all excited...until I saw the dates-May 24-27. That's this weekend. And yeah I can't go. Maybe next year I can plan accordingly.

If anyone has been I would love to read some feedback about what you liked and what you didn't. Thanks in advance.

Monday, May 19, 2008

25 warning signs...

that you might be obsessing about Calvinism. I saw this on Poop Is Emergent Too and thought it was pretty funny. Enjoy.



Help! I'm Going Hyper!

Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Why We're Not Emergent

There is a fairly new book entitled Why I'm Not Emergent by Two Guys Who Should Be that my pastor/father-in-law passed to me a couple of weeks ago.

I have been slowly reading the book-as if there was any other way I read- and it has been very interesting. It is a mix of sound teaching and information alongside entertaining story telling in regards to the Emergent conversation or movement.

Between Two Worlds has posted some excerpts from a review of this book from Kristen Scharold. You can read the full review here. The conclusion of the review is below along with the most memorable quote from Kristen's review. Enjoy.

"In the end, the authors of Why We’re Not Emergent are not making a case for a new kind of Christianity. They are not trying lure emergent Christians into their fold with a hipper take on things. "We want a story with a climax...And if that story comes with a Guinness and some Coldplay, great. If not, no big deal."They are simply trying to replace the errors of the emergent church—which is, nonetheless, making important contributions to evangelicalism—with scripturally sound theology.

And it should not be so counterintuitive that young evangelicals such as myself prefer theology rooted in tradition to a spirituality waffling in relativism. We want a story with a climax so profound that it leaves us worshiping God, not reducing him to fit into our cultural paradigm. And if that story comes with a Guinness and some Coldplay, great. If not, no big deal."

Tuesday, May 6, 2008

New Links in the Blogroll

I have added two new links in my blogroll. One is called Contend Earnestly. There is a ton of useful information there. Check it out.

The other if for no other reason than its name alone has been placed in my blogroll. The name of it is Poop is Emergent Too. I'll just go ahead and say that you're probably not going to be as blessed and edified choosing this one over Contend Earnestly. However, if you dig deep enough you can certainly glean some blessings and insights from these guys along with a few laughs. Here is an excerpt from a Benny Hinn post. He references a quote of Benny's in which he has this comment about it. Classic stuff.



"Benny Hinn cracks me up…in a strange sort of way…My favorite part is..where he says he is talking to Jesus, but he is not sure if it is true or not. As if Jesus has a credibility problem. (Come on Jesus, don’t lie to me…) Oh Benny, you are funny, but you should live it up now, cause as I understand it hell is hot."

Thursday, May 1, 2008

Paul Washer Project

This guy is an animal. I probably should post a warning that this is not for the faint of heart. You may even get saved. Just pray the prayer he talks about. :)


Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Wintley Phipps

Yes it is another video clip. Just watch it! :)





This is a little more powerful than the 7-11 "praise and worship" songs we hear all too often huh? And by 7-11 I mean those songs that have you sing 7 words 11 times over and over and over again until your in a mind numbing trance; or at least that what it feels like.